Old World Metawatch - Triple GTs
This past weekend saw 3 North American GT events so seems like a good chance to touch base on what’s doing well. Not sure how often I’ll do posts like this but we’ll see. I’m going to somewhat arbitrarily include any events that are 5 rounds or 20+ people. That adds in a 3-rounder in Sweden this past weekend. I’m not including events below 2000 points.
This is not intended as a comprehensive review but checking in on these events. Everything being discussed is based on records as shown in BCP, I don’t have info on Best Overall winners when soft scores are included. I’m going to include lists that got 4-1 or better to avoid cutting off on tiebreakers or having to cover too many armies. For 3 round events it’s 3-0 or bust. Lists are shown in the order they placed.
When I talk about lists below I’m looking at them from a competitive lens. Obviously every list shown did well, but I’ll make some comments when I see something unexpected, or if there is something I question. I’m not listing every local metagame here but I’ll make a few comments and let’s start by taking a look at lists played across the four events I looked at.
You can see from the chart that a few armies are very popular with lots of representation at big events. The second largest event this weekend only had one Bretonnian player so that pulled their numbers down a bit. Unsurprisingly the legacy armies can’t keep up with the fully supported armies with Vampire Counts beating Beastmen but all the other legacy armies being at the bottom of the pile. Until we get to Wood Elves who stand out for their low play rate, I’m not sure how much of that is model access, army playstyle, or just lack of popularity. Looking at alternative army lists you can see that Wolves of the Sea, Mortuary Cults, Bretonnian Exiles, and Royal Clans made up decent chunks of their factions. Some lists on the other hand were very unpopular and are crowded out of their faction.
Square Based Open Toronto - Toronto, ON, CA - 50 Players
The largest event this weekend was the SBOT (hmm) taking place in Toronto. 50 players were in the event. Event page is here, packet is here. This event had a good spread of armies with everything but Wood Elves and Skaven showing up. However it was very heavily stacked in favor of four armies with Warriors, High Elves, Brets, and Tomb Kings making up 62% of the field. Here is a podcast episode from Square Based on the event. Here is a video from 2pluspodcast looking at the event as well.
The Packet
The tournament packet shouldn’t have many surprises for those who played in the SBOT online tournament. Rounds are 2:45 which I like and think will become more common. Comp was rule of 6 (core)/3, and no allies. Monsters give up 25% of their points at 25% of their wounds remaining which is a pretty conservative take on scoring monster points but matches units from the core rulebook. Green Knight likely gives up 25% if he’s come back from the dead. There is one thing that stands out which is 50 VP for killing or running a T6 monster off the board. In a packet light on comp or rules changes this frankly very small monster nerf is strange. Missions are more or less out of the core book.
Overall I don’t love the packet, doesn’t address any of 8th’s issues and the one very light bit of comp has the typical “doesn’t hurt Bretonnia but actually helps them.” They didn’t do great overall but I suspect that was a lack of experienced players with the army when compared to events in the UK or the Mid Atlantic of the US.
One last comment on this event, I love having players put the number of deployment drops on their list, makes it a lot easier to keep track of that during deployment hopefully saying a minute or two of players tallying their drops.
List Commentary
Warriors took the top two spots the first place list is a pretty typical Dragon & Friends army though Adam has not taken any of the new rare units from the Arcane Journal. The second place list is Wolves of the Sea and there are a couple interesting things. Chris took a Daemon Prince rather than a Chaos Lord so he does have a level 4 and it’s pretty focused on casting. Then he’s taken a 428 point Exalted Champion on a Gorebeast Charriot. This is pretty neat as something like a mini-dragon. My big concern here is the lack of Fly and the lack of Swiftstride, two of the better dragon rules. But this is still an interesting piece of tech for Wolves of the Sea lists with their limited character access.
For the 4-1 lists the Beastmen list followed a theme of the weekend in not seeing Gigantic Chaos Spawn in Beastmen list, I suspect this will change over the coming months. It did load up on Dragon Ogres which I think is probably one of the things Beastmen want to load up on. The Exiles list is a bit unusual, it looks very normal until you see there are only 777 points of characters. The saved points allow Caleb to take take two Bombards and two units of 5 Pegasus Knights, looks like this mostly worked out well for him as I’m sure having access to the Green Knight helped.
The Mortuary Cult list is pretty unusual. Charlotte elected to take double Elementalism level 4s and then 6 Ushabti Great Bows in core AND in special. This is a lot of shooting. I’m a little confused by the Scarab Broach and I wonder if it was a mistake. The High Priest with the Broach can’t join the Ushtabi and there are no Skeleton Archers in the list and it doesn’t boost the character’s magic missiles. As a huge fan of Skeleton Warriors I wonder if that unit should have been archers. More broadly, this list is looking to shoot the enemy to bits, Lore Familiar on the L2 Illusion BSB has to be for charge control and I like it as a bit of tech. Double Caskets must be there mostly for Light of Protection and honestly, that’s totally worth it. It’s an interesting take on the list and I’m glad it did well for her.
The first High Elf list is another list that isn’t similar to what I’d expect. Andy didn’t take a dragon and instead has taken 4 characters including an Archmage on a Lion Chariot and another Archmage on foot. I’ve not played a double level 4 High Elf list and would be interested to see it in action. Outside of characters it’s more what I’d expect with a lot of mounted units in core, a lot of Sisters of Avelorn, and some Swordmasters that will likely be joined by a wizard.
Rounding out the 4-1 lists we have a very typical Dragon lord Chaos list, and a more typical High Elf list with a dragon. The rest of the High Elf list has a few interesting things including a Skycutter for the Archmage which I like, and then a 511 point block of Sea Guard in core. The Sea Guard will be a mix of points denial being fairly hard to shift, and very strong versus dragons who will take a Stand and Shoot from 33 bows if they charge the unit, the combat res bonus for that will mean the Sea Guard win combat.
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Warriors of Chaos - Toronto - Chosen + Drogres - [1999pts]
## Characters [982pts]
Chaos Lord [627pts]: Full Plate Armour, Hand Weapon, Shield, General, Chaos Dragon (Dark Fire of Chaos, Full Plate Armour, Fumes of Contagion, Wicked Claws), Mark of Nurgle, Ogre Blade, 3x Favour of the Gods, Brazen Collar, Enchanting Aura
Sorcerer Lord [355pts]: Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Daemonic Mount (Hand Weapon), Mark of Tzeentch, Wizard Level 4, Battle Magic, Armour of Meteoric Iron, Spell Familiar, Infernal Puppet
## Core [500pts]
Forsaken [190pts]:
• 10x Forsaken [19pts]: Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Forsaken by Slaneesh
Forsaken [133pts]:
• 7x Forsaken [19pts]: Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Forsaken by Slaneesh
Marauder Horsemen [177pts]:
• 10x Marauder Horsemen [16pts]: Warhorse (Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Light Armour, Shield, Mark of Tzeentch, Javelin, Cavalry Spear
• 1x Marauder Horsemaster [7pts]
• 1x Standard Bearer [5pts]
• 1x Musician [5pts]
## Special [517pts]
Chosen Chaos Knights [265pts]:
• 6x Chosen Chaos Knight [43pts]: Chaos Steed (Barding, Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Shield, Drilled, Lance, Mark of Chaos Undivided, Full Plate Armour
• 1x Champion [7pts]
Dragon Ogres [252pts]:
• 4x Dragon Ogre [63pts]: Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Great Weapon
Drops: 6 -
Warriors of Chaos - Wolves of the Sea - SBOT Toronto - KISS Army- [2000pts]
## Characters [878pts]
Daemon Princes [450pts]:
• 1x Daemon Prince [450pts]: Hand Weapon, Fly (9), General, Mark of Tzeentch, Wizard Level 4, Battle Magic, Light Armour, Armour of Silvered Steel, Infernal Puppet, Favour of the Gods
Exalted Champion [428pts]: Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Battle Standard Bearer (War Banner), Mark of Nurgle, Flail, Favour of the Gods, Ruby Ring of Ruin, Brazen Collar, Poisonous Slime, Enchanting Aura
• 1x Gorebeast Chariot [135pts]: 2x Chaos Charioteer (Halberd, Hand Weapon), Gorebeast (Hand Weapon)
## Core [506pts]
Chaos Warhounds [30pts]:
• 5x Chaos Warhound [6pts]: Hand Weapon
Chaos Warhounds [35pts]: Vanguard
• 5x Chaos Warhound [6pts]: Hand Weapon
Chaos Warhounds [35pts]: Vanguard
• 5x Chaos Warhound [6pts]: Hand Weapon
Marauder Horsemen [82pts]:
• 5x Marauder Horsemen [15pts]: Warhorse (Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Light Armour, Mark of Khorne, Flail
• 1x Marauder Horsemaster [7pts]
Marauder Tribe Berserkers [108pts]: Ambushers
• 10x Marauder Tribe Berserkers [9pts]: Hand Weapon, Light Armour, Flail
• 1x Headtaker [8pts]
Marauder Tribe Berserkers [108pts]: Ambushers
• 10x Marauder Tribe Berserkers [9pts]: Hand Weapon, Light Armour, Flail
• 1x Headtaker [8pts]
Marauder Tribe Berserkers [108pts]: Ambushers
• 10x Marauder Tribe Berserkers [9pts]: Hand Weapon, Light Armour, Flail
• 1x Headtaker [8pts]
## Special [406pts]
Marauder Tribe Huscarls [219pts]: Drilled
• 7x Marauder Tribe Huscarl [21pts]: Warhorse (Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Flail, Heavy Armour, Shield, Mark of Chaos Undivided
• 1x First Sword [33pts]: Paymaster's Coin
• 1x Standard Bearer [26pts]: Icon of Darkness
• 1x Musician [6pts]
Skin Wolves [187pts]:
• 4x Skin Wolf [45pts]: Hand Weapon
• 1x Skin Wolf Jarl [7pts]
## Rare [210pts]
Chaos Giants [210pts]:
• 1x Chaos Giant [210pts]: Giant's Club, Light Armour, Scaly Skin
Drops: 11 (8 with ambushers) -
Beastmen Brayherds - Sbot - [2000pts]
## Characters [865pts]
Bray-Shaman [100pts]: Braystaff, Wizard Level 2, Elementalism, Earthing Rod
Doombull [320pts]: Hand Weapon, General, Giant Blade, Armour of Meteoric Iron, Talisman Of Protection, Gouge-tusks
Great Bray-Shaman [315pts]: Braystaff, Wizard Level 4, Elementalism, Power Scroll, Hagtree Fetish
• 1x Tuskgor Chariot [85pts]: Tuskgor (Hand Weapon), Bestigor Crew (Great Weapon, Hand Weapon), Gor Crew (Cavalry Spear, Hand Weapon)
Wargor [130pts]: Hand Weapon, Battle Standard Bearer, Slug-skin
## Core [503pts]
Chaos Warhounds [35pts]: Vanguard
• 5x Chaos Warhound [6pts]: Hand Weapon
Chaos Warhounds [35pts]: Vanguard
• 5x Chaos Warhound [6pts]: Hand Weapon
Gor Herds [256pts]: Magic Standard
• 27x Gor [7pts]: Hand Weapon, Additional Hand Weapon
• 1x True-horn [7pts]: Great Weapon
• 1x Standard Bearer [55pts]: Totem of Rust
• 1x Musician [5pts]
Gor Herds [71pts]: Ambushers
• 8x Gor [7pts]: Hand Weapon, Additional Hand Weapon
• 1x True-horn [7pts]: Great Weapon
Minotaur Herds [106pts]: Ambushers
• 1x Minotaur [49pts]: Hand Weapon, Light Armour, Shield
• 1x Minotaur [51pts]: Hand Weapon, Light Armour, Great Weapon
## Special [378pts]
Dragon Ogres [189pts]:
• 3x Dragon Ogre [63pts]: Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Great Weapon
Dragon Ogres [189pts]:
• 3x Dragon Ogre [63pts]: Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Great Weapon
## Rare [254pts]
Dragon Ogre Shaggoth [254pts]: Hand Weapon, Light Armour, Great Weapon, The Blackened Plate
Drops: 9 (7 with ambushers) -
Kingdom of Bretonnia - Bretonnian Exiles - The Magic is Bombards - [2000pts]
## Named Characters [275pts]
The Green Knight [275pts]: The Shadow Steed (Barding, Hand Weapon), Heavy Armour, Shield, The Dolorous Blade
## Characters [502pts]
Baron [291pts]: Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Shield, General, Royal Pegasus (Barding, Hand Weapon), The Exile's Vow, Virtue of Heroism, Lance, Gromil Great Helm, Lucky Heirloom
Paladin [211pts]: Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Shield, Battle Standard Bearer (Banner Of Honourable Warfare), Royal Pegasus (Barding, Hand Weapon), The Exile's Vow, Virtue of the Joust, Lance, Falcon-horn of Fredemund
## Core [510pts]
Mounted Knights of the Realm [151pts]: The Exile's Vow
• 6x Mounted Knight of the Realm [24pts]: Bretonnian Warhorse (Barding, Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Lance, Shield
• 1x First Knight [7pts]
Mounted Knights of the Realm [151pts]: The Exile's Vow
• 6x Mounted Knight of the Realm [24pts]: Bretonnian Warhorse (Barding, Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Lance, Shield
• 1x First Knight [7pts]
Mounted Knights of the Realm [151pts]: The Exile's Vow
• 6x Mounted Knight of the Realm [24pts]: Bretonnian Warhorse (Barding, Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Lance, Shield
• 1x First Knight [7pts]
Peasant Bowmen [57pts]: Skirmishers
• 10x Peasant Bowman [5pts]: Hand Weapon, Longbow
• 1x Villein [7pts]
## Special [513pts]
Pegasus Knights [254pts]: The Exile's Vow
• 4x Pegasus Knight [55pts]: Barded Pegasus (Barding, Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Lance, Shield
• 1x First Knight [7pts]
• 1x Standard Bearer [27pts]: Banner of Chalons
Pegasus Knights [259pts]: The Exile's Vow
• 4x Pegasus Knight [55pts]: Barded Pegasus (Barding, Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Lance, Shield
• 1x First Knight [7pts]
• 1x Standard Bearer [32pts]: Banner Of The Zealous Knight
## Rare [200pts]
Border Princes Bombard [100pts]: Bombard Crew (Hand Weapon, Light Armour)
• 1x Bombard [100pts]: Bombard
Border Princes Bombard [100pts]: Bombard Crew (Hand Weapon, Light Armour)
• 1x Bombard [100pts]: Bombard -
## Characters [535pts]
High Priest [175pts]: General, Wizard Level 4, Elementalism, Earthing Rod
High Priest [220pts]: Wizard Level 4, Elementalism, Scarab Brooch, Ruby Ring of Ruin
Mortuary Priest [140pts]: Battle Standard Bearer, Wizard Level 2, Illusion, Lore Familiar
## Core [667pts]
Necroserpents [80pts]:
• 2x Necroserpent [40pts]: The Terrors Below
Skeleton Warriors [130pts]: Nehekharan Phalanx
• 22x Skeleton Warrior [5pts]: Light Armour
• 1x Master of Arms [5pts]
• 1x Standard Bearer [5pts]
Tomb Swarms [156pts]:
• 4x Tomb Swarm [39pts]: Ambushers
Ushabti [301pts]:
• 6x Ushabti [49pts]: Greatbow
• 1x Ancient [7pts]
## Special [528pts]
Tomb Scorpion [77pts]: Ambushers, The Terrors Below
Tomb Scorpion [75pts]: Ambushers
Tomb Scorpion [75pts]: Ambushers
Ushabti [301pts]:
• 6x Ushabti [49pts]: Greatbow
• 1x Ancient [7pts]
## Rare [270pts]
Casket of Souls [135pts]
Casket of Souls [135pts]
Drops: 10 (5 with ambushers) -
High Elf Realms - Sboto no iggo - [1999pts]
## Characters [986pts]
Archmage [420pts]: Hand Weapon, Chracian Hunter, Wizard Level 4, Illusion, Chracian Great Blade, The White Sword, Lore Familiar
• 1x Lion Chariot [125pts]: 2x Lion Charioteer (Chracian Great Blade, Hand Weapon), 2x War Lion (Hand Weapon)
Archmage [230pts]: Hand Weapon, Warden of Saphery, Wizard Level 4, High Magic, Sword of Hoeth, Silvery Wand, Seed of Rebirth
Handmaiden of the Everqueen [65pts]: Bow of Avelorn, Hand Weapon, Handmaiden's Spear, General, Light Armour
Noble [271pts]: Hand Weapon, Shield, Battle Standard Bearer, Pure of Heart, Griffon (Heavy Armour, Serrated Maw, Wicked Claws), Full Plate Armour, Dragon Helm, Seed of Rebirth, Lance, Longbow
## Core [505pts]
Ellyrian Reavers [96pts]:
• 5x Ellyrian Reaver [18pts]: Elven Steed (Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Light Armour, Cavalry Spear, Shortbow
• 1x Musician [6pts]
Ellyrian Reavers [96pts]:
• 5x Ellyrian Reaver [18pts]: Elven Steed (Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Light Armour, Cavalry Spear, Shortbow
• 1x Musician [6pts]
Silver Helms [126pts]:
• 5x Silver Helm [24pts]: Barded Elven Steed (Barding, Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Lance, Shield
• 1x High Helm [6pts]
Sisters of Avelorn [187pts]:
• 10x Sister of Avelorn [15pts]: Bow of Avelorn, Hand Weapon, Light Armour
• 1x High Sister [37pts]: Ruby Ring of Ruin
## Special [358pts]
Swordmasters of Hoeth [283pts]:
• 14x Swordmaster [15pts]: Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Sword of Hoeth, Drilled
• 1x Bladelord [31pts]: The Loremaster's Cloak
• 1x Standard Bearer [36pts]: Rampaging Banner
• 1x Musician [6pts]
Tiranoc Chariot [75pts]:
• 1x Tiranoc Chariot [75pts]: 2x Elven Steed (Hand Weapon), 2x Tiranoc Charioteer (Cavalry Spear, Hand Weapon, Longbow)
## Rare [150pts]
Sisters of Avelorn [75pts]:
• 5x Sister of Avelorn [15pts]: Bow of Avelorn, Hand Weapon, Light Armour
Sisters of Avelorn [75pts]:
• 5x Sister of Avelorn [15pts]: Bow of Avelorn, Hand Weapon, Light Armour
Drops: 9 -
Warriors of Chaos - SBIRL - [1997pts]
## Characters [973pts]
Chaos Lord [592pts]: Full Plate Armour, Hand Weapon, Shield, General, Chaos Dragon (Dark Fire of Chaos, Full Plate Armour, Fumes of Contagion, Wicked Claws), Mark of Tzeentch, Dragon Slaying Sword, 2x Favour of the Gods, Crown of Everlasting Conquest
Sorcerer Lord [381pts]: Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Chaos Steed (Barding, Hand Weapon), Mark of T I'mzeentch, Wizard Level 4, Daemonology, Bedazzling Helm, Lore Familiar, Favour of the Gods, Enchanting Aura
## Core [500pts]
Chaos Warhounds [30pts]:
• 5x Chaos Warhound [6pts]: Hand Weapon
Chaos Warhounds [30pts]:
• 5x Chaos Warhound [6pts]: Hand Weapon
Chaos Warhounds [30pts]:
• 5x Chaos Warhound [6pts]: Hand Weapon
Chaos Warhounds [30pts]:
• 5x Chaos Warhound [6pts]: Hand Weapon
Forsaken [95pts]:
• 5x Forsaken [19pts]: Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Forsaken by Slaneesh
Forsaken [95pts]:
• 5x Forsaken [19pts]: Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Forsaken by Slaneesh
Forsaken [95pts]:
• 5x Forsaken [19pts]: Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Forsaken by Slaneesh
Forsaken [95pts]:
• 5x Forsaken [19pts]: Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Forsaken by Slaneesh
## Special [524pts]
Chosen Chaos Knights [384pts]:
• 7x Chosen Chaos Knight [45pts]: Chaos Steed (Barding, Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Shield, Drilled, Lance, Mark of Tzeentch, Full Plate Armour
• 1x Champion [27pts]: Charmed Shield, Luckstone
• 1x Standard Bearer [42pts]: Banner of Rage
Dragon Ogres [70pts]:
• 1x Dragon Ogre [63pts]: Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Great Weapon
• 1x Shartak [7pts]
Dragon Ogres [70pts]:
• 1x Dragon Ogre [63pts]: Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Great Weapon
• 1x Shartak [7pts]
Drops: 12 -
High Elf Realms - 🪄🐉 - [1999pts]
## Characters [998pts]
Archmage [360pts]: Hand Weapon, Sea Guard, Wizard Level 4, Battle Magic, Warbow, Silvery Wand, Seed of Rebirth, Ruby Ring of Ruin, Opal Amulet
• 1x Lothern Skycutter [90pts]: 3x Sea Guard Crew, Cavalry Spear, Hand Weapon, Shortbow, Swiftfeather Roc (Wicked Claws)
Handmaiden of the Everqueen [110pts]: Bow of Avelorn, Hand Weapon, Handmaiden's Spear, Horn of Isha, Light Armour, Opal Amulet
Prince [528pts]: Hand Weapon, Shield, General, Pure of Heart, Star Dragon (Dragon Fire, Full Plate Armour, Wicked Claws), Full Plate Armour, Sword of Might, Dragon Helm, Seed of Rebirth, Opal Amulet, Talisman Of Protection
## Core [511pts]
Lothern Sea Guard [511pts]: Magic Standard, Veterans
• 33x Lothern Sea Guard [12pts]: Hand Weapon, Light Armour, Thrusting Spear, Warbow, Shield
• 1x Sea Master [32pts]: The Loremaster's Cloak
• 1x Standard Bearer [45pts]: Razor Standard
• 1x Musician [5pts]
## Rare [490pts]
Frostheart Phoenix [205pts]: Full Plate Armour, Wicked Claws
Great Eagles [60pts]:
• 1x Great Eagle [60pts]: Serrated Maw, Wicked Claws
Sisters of Avelorn [75pts]:
• 5x Sister of Avelorn [15pts]: Bow of Avelorn, Hand Weapon, Light Armour
Sisters of Avelorn [75pts]:
• 5x Sister of Avelorn [15pts]: Bow of Avelorn, Hand Weapon, Light Armour
Sisters of Avelorn [75pts]:
• 5x Sister of Avelorn [15pts]: Bow of Avelorn, Hand Weapon, Light Armour
Drops: 7
Battle At the Beltway - Arlington, VA, USA - 29 players
Taking place just outside Washington DC I attended this event and will have a little more info on it. I’ll probably write more about this later. The event page is here, and the packet is here. The meta for this one was heavy on Warriors with 6 players, two taking Wolves of the Sea. Tomb Kings were in second with 4 players. Then a bunch of armies had 1-3 players.
The Packet
I really liked the packet for this one. There was a comp/theme score for best overall but no list building restrictions. However there was a big change in the introduction of Scoring Units. This was any unit that is not in skirmish, not a monster, and started the game at US 9 or higher. A lot of missions rewarded these units and I think it worked well. Missions were from the rulebook but with some tweaks and then bonus objectives up to 5 points making each round have a possible 25 points. I especially want to call out For Honor & Glory which let each player select one bonus ability, this was for round 5 and I think everyone had a really good time having this little tweak to their list for that game.
List Commentary
In first place we have Phil and his Tomb King Grand Army. Phil plays in a lot of events and does very well. It’s a pretty typical double-dragon list for the Tomb Kings forgoing Casket of Souls for two Necrosphinxes giving it 4 big flying threats. Luna another east coast powerhouse, took second with her Exiles again a pretty typical list, 2 bombards, a green knight, a pegasus knight unit with 2 characters, and a level 3 wizard. Chuck took third with Vampire Counts and I think had the most interesting list here. He didn’t take Mortis Engines or screams and loaded up on a big Blood Knight bus while also taking some rarely seen units like Black Knights. I was talking to another Vampire Count player and we agreed that VC are deeper than just scream lists so it’s nice to see this.
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The Jade Legion
High Priest [460pts]: Necrolith Bone Dragon Wizard Level 4, Illusion, Serpent Staff, Warding Splint, Lore Familiar, Potion of Speed
Tomb King [461pts]: Heavy Armour, Shield, General, Necrolith Bone Dragon, Great Weapon, Armour of the Ages, Potion of Toughness, Talisman Of Protection
Sepulchral Stalkers [162pts]:
• 3x Sepulchral Stalker [54pts]: Ambushers
Skeleton Archers [55pts]:
• 10x Skeleton Archer [5pts]
• 1x Standard Bearer [5pts]
Skeleton Chariots [320pts]:
• 6x Skeleton Chariot [43pts]:
• 1x Master Charioteer [6pts]
• 1x Standard Bearer [56pts]: Icon of the Sacred Eye
Tomb Scorpion [75pts]: Ambushers
Tomb Scorpion [75pts]: Ambushers
Necrosphinx [195pts]
Necrosphinx [195pts] -
Bretonnian Exiles 2000pts
++ Characters [983 pts] ++
Baron [287 pts]
(Hand weapon, Heavy armour, Shield, General, Royal Pegasus, Frontier Axe, Sirienne's Locket, Virtue of Knightly Temper)
Paladin [244 pts]
(Hand weapon, Lance, Heavy armour, Battle Standard Bearer [Banner Of The Lady's Grace], Royal Pegasus, Falcon-horn of Fredemund, Charmed Shield)
The Green Knight [275 pts]
(The Dolorous Blade, Heavy armour, Shield, Barding)
Outcast Wizard [177 pts]
(Hand weapon, Level 3 Wizard, Warhorse, Ruby Ring of Ruin, Lore Familiar, Battle Magic)
++ Core Units [503 pts] ++
8 Mounted Knights of the Realm [238 pts]
(Hand weapons, Lances, Shields, Heavy armour, First Knight (champion), Standard bearer [War Banner], Musician)
6 Mounted Knights of the Realm [165 pts]
(Hand weapons, Lances, Shields, Heavy armour, First Knight (champion), Standard bearer, Musician)
10 Peasant Bowmen [50 pts]
(Hand weapons, Longbows, No armour, Skirmishers)
10 Peasant Bowmen [50 pts]
(Hand weapons, Longbows, No armour, Skirmishers)
++ Special Units [314 pts] ++
5 Pegasus Knights [314 pts]
(Hand weapon, Lances, Shields, Heavy armour, Standard bearer [Banner Of The Zealous Knight], Musician)
++ Rare Units [200 pts] ++
Border Princes Bombard [100 pts]
(Hand weapons, Light armour)
Border Princes Bombard [100 pts]
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Battle of the Beltway [1998 pts]
Warhammer: The Old World, Vampire Counts
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++ Characters [993 pts] ++
Vampire Count [324 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Heavy armour
- Shield
- Nightmare
- Crown Of The Damned
- Sword Of Kings
- Supernatural Horror
- Dark Acolyte
- Dark Magic
Vampire Thrall [249 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Heavy armour
- Shield
- Battle Standard Bearer [The Screaming Banner]
- Nightmare
- Dragon Slaying Sword
- Dark Acolyte
- Dark Magic
Master Necromancer [266 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Level 4 Wizard
- General
- Nightmare
- Helm Of Commandment
- Spell Familiar
- Spelleater Axe
- Dark Magic
Wight King [154 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Heavy armour
- Skeletal Steed
- Charmed Shield
- Ruby Ring of Ruin
- Sword of Might
++ Core Units [511 pts] ++
11 Crypt Ghouls [105 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Crypt Ghast
10 Black Knights [338 pts]
- Lances
- Skeletal Hooves
- Heavy armour
- Shield
- Barding
- Hell Knight
- Standard bearer [Standard Of Hellish Vigour]
- Musician
21 Zombies [68 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Standard bearer
++ Rare Units [494 pts] ++
9 Blood Knights [494 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Lances
- Iron-Shod Hooves
- Full plate armour
- Shield
- Barding
- Drilled
- Kastellan
- Standard bearer [Drakenhof Banner]
- Musician
SoCal Open 2024 - Del Mar, CA, USA - 14 players
On the small side for a GT but it’s great to see some west coast events. Event listing is here, player packet is here. No army was repeated more than twice and most were represented so it was a nice spread for a small event.
The Packet
Pretty typical packet, rule of 3/6, no allies, no comp. Missions are from the core book but they did include rules for Arcane Ruins. They function like forests but give MR 2 to units inside them. I actually like this a lot, having more options to fight magic in Old World is a good thing. Not changing any scoring I’m less a fan of and I feel like this type of basic packet heavily favors the top armies in the meta.
List Commentary
The High Elf list in first place had two Moon Dragons. Core was mostly a big block of Sea Guard. Then interestingly his rare was a pair of Lion Chariots and Skycutters. I’ve not played against the Lion Chariots but overall I like this list a lot. It has a lot of speed and the big block of Sea Guard as the only slow unit in your army will try and function as an anti-dragon deterrence and points denial.
The Warriors list has a dragon lord, some typical core though there is a large unit of Chaos Warriors. In rare there is one Gigantic Spawn and two Gorebeast Charriots. I’m not sure if it was a model availability thing but I’d rather have seen two Spawn.
The Exiles list here again skimps on characters and uses the points to take 2 units of Pegasus Knights. However one is only three models which I think is pretty hard to use effectively as the unit only has 6 wounds. Other than that it’s what you’d expect, 2 Bombards, plenty of Knights of the Realm.
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High Elf Realms - Unnamed list - [1998pts]
# ++ Main Force ++ [1998pts]
## Characters [991pts]
Archmage [520pts]: Hand Weapon, Pure of Heart, Moon Dragon (Dragon Fire, Full Plate Armour, Wicked Claws), Wizard Level 4, Illusion, Dragon Slaying Sword, Seed of Rebirth, Talisman Of Protection
Prince [471pts]: Hand Weapon, Shield, General, Pure of Heart, Moon Dragon (Dragon Fire, Full Plate Armour, Wicked Claws), Light Armour, Headsman's Axe, Armour of Caledor, Seed of Rebirth, Longbow
## Core [527pts]
Ellyrian Reavers [90pts]:
• 5x Ellyrian Reaver [18pts]: Elven Steed (Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Light Armour, Cavalry Spear, Shortbow
Lothern Sea Guard [437pts]: Magic Standard
• 30x Lothern Sea Guard [12pts]: Hand Weapon, Light Armour, Thrusting Spear, Warbow, Shield
• 1x Sea Master [32pts]: The Loremaster's Cloak
• 1x Standard Bearer [45pts]: Razor Standard
## Rare [480pts]
Lion Chariot of Chrace [125pts]:
• 1x Lion Chariot [125pts]: 2x Lion Charioteer (Chracian Great Blade, Hand Weapon), 2x War Lion (Hand Weapon)
Lion Chariot of Chrace [125pts]:
• 1x Lion Chariot [125pts]: 2x Lion Charioteer (Chracian Great Blade, Hand Weapon), 2x War Lion (Hand Weapon)
Lothern Skycutters [115pts]:
• 1x Lothern Skycutter [115pts]: 3x Sea Guard Crew, Cavalry Spear, Hand Weapon, Shortbow, Swiftfeather Roc (Wicked Claws), Eagle-Eye Bolt Thrower
Lothern Skycutters [115pts]:
• 1x Lothern Skycutter [115pts]: 3x Sea Guard Crew, Cavalry Spear, Hand Weapon, Shortbow, Swiftfeather Roc (Wicked Claws), Eagle-Eye Bolt Thrower -
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Razorclaw Tribe [1998 pts]
Warhammer: The Old World, Warriors of Chaos
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++ Characters [933 pts] ++
Chaos Lord [617 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Full plate armour
- Shield
- Mark of Chaos [Mark of Nurgle]
- General
- Chaos Dragon
- Favour of the Gods
- Ogre Blade
- Brazen Collar
- Enchanting Aura
Sorcerer Lord [316 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Heavy armour
- Mark of Tzeentch
- Level 4 Wizard
- Chaos Steed
- Infernal Puppet
- Spell Familiar
- Battle Magic
++ Core Units [534 pts] ++
18 Chaos Warriors [320 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Heavy armour
- Shields
- Mark of Chaos [Mark of Chaos Undivided]
- Champion [Taskmaster's Scourge]
- Standard bearer [War Banner]
- Musician
5 Marauder Horsemen [72 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Flails
- Light armour
- Mark of Chaos [Mark of Chaos Undivided]
- Marauder Horsemaster
5 Marauder Horsemen [72 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Flails
- Light armour
- Mark of Chaos [Mark of Chaos Undivided]
- Marauder Horsemaster
5 Chaos Warhounds [35 pts]
- Claws and fangs (Hand weapons)
- Vanguard
5 Chaos Warhounds [35 pts]
- Claws and fangs (Hand weapons)
- Vanguard
++ Special Units [226 pts] ++
5 Chosen Chaos Knights [226 pts]
- Lances
- Shields
- Full plate armour
- Mark of Chaos [Mark of Chaos Undivided]
- Champion
- Standard bearer
- Musician
++ Rare Units [305 pts] ++
Gigantic Spawn of Chaos [170 pts]
- Slashing talons
- Gnashing maws
- Heavy armour (Scaly skin)
- Gigantic Spawn of Nurgle
Gorebeast Chariot [135 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Halberds
- Mark of Chaos Undivided -
Kingdom of Bretonnia - Bretonnian Exiles - Mousillon - [1997pts]
# ++ Main Force ++ [1997pts]
## Named Characters [275pts]
The Green Knight [275pts]: The Shadow Steed (Barding, Hand Weapon), Heavy Armour, Shield, The Dolorous Blade
## Characters [563pts]
Baron [302pts]: Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Shield, General, Royal Pegasus (Barding, Hand Weapon), The Exile's Vow, Virtue of Knightly Temper, Frontier Axe, Falcon-horn of Fredemund
Paladin [261pts]: Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Shield, Battle Standard Bearer (Banner Of Honourable Warfare), Royal Pegasus (Barding, Hand Weapon), The Exile's Vow, Virtue of Heroism, Lance, 2x Lucky Heirloom
## Core [501pts]
Mounted Knights of the Realm [223pts]: The Exile's Vow
• 9x Mounted Knight of the Realm [24pts]: Bretonnian Warhorse (Barding, Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Lance, Shield
• 1x First Knight [7pts]
Mounted Knights of the Realm [223pts]: The Exile's Vow
• 9x Mounted Knight of the Realm [24pts]: Bretonnian Warhorse (Barding, Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Lance, Shield
• 1x First Knight [7pts]
Peasant Bowmen [55pts]: Skirmishers
• 10x Peasant Bowman [5pts]: Hand Weapon, Longbow
• 1x Musician [5pts]
## Special [458pts]
Pegasus Knights [259pts]: The Exile's Vow
• 4x Pegasus Knight [55pts]: Barded Pegasus (Barding, Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Lance, Shield
• 1x First Knight [7pts]
• 1x Standard Bearer [32pts]: Banner Of The Zealous Knight
Pegasus Knights [199pts]: The Exile's Vow
• 3x Pegasus Knight [55pts]: Barded Pegasus (Barding, Hand Weapon), Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Lance, Shield
• 1x First Knight [7pts]
• 1x Standard Bearer [27pts]: Banner of Chalons
## Rare [200pts]
Border Princes Bombard [100pts]: Bombard Crew (Hand Weapon, Light Armour)
• 1x Bombard [100pts]: Bombard
Border Princes Bombard [100pts]: Bombard Crew (Hand Weapon, Light Armour)
• 1x Bombard [100pts]: Bombard
The Return - Partille, Sweden - 20 Players
Sweden has always been big in fantasy so I think it’s worth keeping an eye on their events. The event page is here, and the packet (in Swedish) is here. The event had a really nice mix of armies with only 3 factions having more than one player. Orcs and Goblins was in first with 3 players, the Swedes are doing Old World right.
The Packet
No comp or list building changes, missions were also directly out of the rulebook. Looks like this was held in a school cafeteria which is neat.
List Commentary
The Orc & Goblin list is a bit of everything. It takes 997 points of characters but skips a wyvern. The general is a Black Orc Warboss in a chariot which will be a hard hitting unit and is pretty tanky while coming in about 1000 points under a wyvern character. The BSB is a Bigboss who will go in a small Black Orc unit. Then three Night Goblin Warbosses will join a unit of Night Goblins with 3 Fanatics. I’m not sure how that unit will do in combat but it will probably be able to pull out some surprising combat results for Night Goblins. Special and rare is a mix of war machines and monsters.
The Mortuary Cults list is mostly a leadership bomb list. It has 2 level 4s with necromancy/illusion. I think it’s a little weaker as it then splits up things. Core has a small unit of bow Ushabti, a small unit of Skeleton Archers, a big unit of Skeleton Warriors. Special has a Necrosphinx and a unit of Carrion which I’ve not played yet but seem like they’d be good in some matchups. Then in rare we only have one Casket and one Catapult. Overall I think this is a list that lacks focus and would be improved by leaning into some units harder, but it obviously worked out for Anders.
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Orc and Goblin Tribes - Boss sprinkle - [2000pts]
# ++ Main Force ++ [2000pts]
## Characters [997pts]
Black Orc Warboss [345pts]: Full Plate Armour, Hand Weapon, Shield, General, Black Orc Chariot (2x Black Orc Crew), Hand Weapon, Great Weapon (2x War Boar), Hand Weapon, Great Weapon, Armour of Destiny
Night Goblin Warboss [95pts]: Hand Weapon, Wollopa's One Hit Wunds, Paymaster's Coin
Night Goblin Warboss [105pts]: Hand Weapon, Martog’s Best Basha
Night Goblin Warboss [95pts]: Hand Weapon, Shield, Light Armour, Da Choppiest Choppa
Orc Bigboss [157pts]: Hand Weapon, Shield, Battle Standard Bearer (War Banner), Light Armour, Biting Blade, Dead ’Ard Armour
Orc Weirdnob [200pts]: Hand Weapon, Wizard Level 4, Elementalism, Lore Familiar
## Core [508pts]
Black Orc Mobs [250pts]: Stubborn
• 10x Black Orc [13pts]: Full Plate Armour, Hand Weapon, Shield
• 1x Boss [19pts]: Full Plate Armour, Hand Weapon, Shield
• 1x Standard Bearer [69pts]: Full Plate Armour, Hand Weapon, Shield, The Big Red Raggedy Flag
• 1x Musician [19pts]: Full Plate Armour, Hand Weapon, Shield
Night Goblin Mobs [258pts]: Netters
• 32x Night Goblin [3pts]: Hand Weapon, Shield
• 3x Fanatic [25pts]: Fanatic Ball & Chain
• 1x Boss [7pts]
• 1x Standard Bearer [55pts]: Magic Standard (Banner of Iron Resolve)
• 1x Musician [5pts]
## Special [135pts]
Goblin Bolt Throwas [45pts]:
• 1x Bolt Throwa [45pts]: Goblin Crew (Hand Weapon), Bolt Thrower
Goblin Bolt Throwas [45pts]:
• 1x Bolt Throwa [45pts]: Goblin Crew (Hand Weapon), Bolt Thrower
Stone Troll Mobs [45pts]:
• 1x Stone Troll [45pts]: Calloused Hide, Hand Weapon, Troll Vomit
## Rare [360pts]
Mangler Squigs [95pts]:
• 1x Mangler Squig [95pts]: Collosal Fang-Filled Gob, Heavy Armour
Troll Hag [265pts]: Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Troll Vomit, Wizard Level 1, Battle Magic, Talisman Of Protection -
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Mortuary Cults [1997 pts]
Warhammer: The Old World, Tomb Kings of Khemri, Mortuary Cults
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++ Characters [632 pts] ++
High Priest [245 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Level 4 Wizard
- General
- On foot
- Cloak of the Dunes
- Hieratic Jar
- Necromancy
High Priest [247 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Level 4 Wizard
- Skeletal Steed
- Warding Splint
- Lore Familiar
- Illusion
Mortuary Priest [140 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Level 2 Wizard
- Battle Standard Bearer
- On foot
- Amulet Of The Serpent
- Necromancy
++ Core Units [675 pts] ++
3 Tomb Swarms [111 pts]
- Hand weapons (Venomous bites and stings)
31 Skeleton Warriors [231 pts]
- Thrusting spears
- Light armour
- Shields
- Nehekharan Phalanx (0-1 per 1000 points)
- Master of Arms (champion)
- Standard bearer [War Banner]
3 Ushabti [147 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Greatbows
- Heavy armour
6 Skeleton Horse Archers [66 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Warbows
24 Skeleton Archers [120 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Warbows
++ Special Units [430 pts] ++
Tomb Scorpion [77 pts]
- Decapitating claws
- Envenomed sting
- Heavy armour (Bone carapace)
- Ambushers
- The Terrors Below
Tomb Scorpion [77 pts]
- Decapitating claws
- Envenomed sting
- Heavy armour (Bone carapace)
- Ambushers
- The Terrors Below
Necrosphinx [195 pts]
- Cleaving blades
- Decapitating strike
- Heavy armour
3 Carrion [81 pts]
- Hand weapons (Beaks and talons)
++ Rare Units [260 pts] ++
Casket of Souls [135 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Great weapons
- Light armour
Screaming Skull Catapult [125 pts]
- Screaming Skull Catapult
- Hand weapons
- Light armour
- Skulls of the Foe
